Greetings from VKMfanHuey!!!

Welcome to the Gingerology blog for the 1940 RKO film, Kitty Foyle!!!

Ginger turns in her 1940 AcademyAward Best Actress winning role as Kitty Foyle, a hard-working girl from the wrong side of Philly, who gets mixed up with a dude from the right side of Philly, by the surname of Strafford...Wyn Strafford (Dennis Morgan), who is in love with Kitty, but also in love with...his surname... the classic tale of forbidden class romance, and how money talks... but, as I've said before, you don't HAVE enough money to keep Hu away from Kitty!

Please note the 'menu' above, which has various information regarding the film; to the right (just below the Gingerology link) there are additional links regarding the film.

Please feel free to leave a comment with any general info, links, pics, or just to say hi!

...And be sure to check out our 'main' site, Gingerology - just click on the Ginger pic to the right. There you'll find a list of ALL of Ginger Rogers' films; click on any one, and you will be directed to a 'dedicated' blog about that film (not unlike this blog).

Keep It Gingery, y'all!

VKMfanHuey

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Saturday, August 31, 2013

Archive Post #4 - from Gingerology - originally posted December 26, 2010

Kitty turns SEVENTY!!!

Happy Birthday to Miss Foyle from Huey and all the folks at Gingerology!!! Still pretty dang AWESOME for a Septuagenarian, Miss Kitty!!! The Natural History of a Woman, indeed!!!

If ya ever wonder...yeah, Huey's ALL-TIME fave GingerFilm is... Kitty Foyle. Of course, it's an awesome Academy-Award winning performance, but on top of that, the film itself is just 'wall-to-wall' Ginger! It HAS to be the most 'camera time' Ginger receives in any of her films, as of course, it's all about Kitty!


The movie was released on December 27, 1940 by RKO Radio Pictures, with much anticipation, for the role was much sought after by many Hollywood actresses. Ginger's studio, RKO, bought the rights to it, and gave her 'right of first refusal' for it. She initially balked at the role after reading the 'uncut' novel - she recalled in her bio that "...there were explicit love scenes in it that were quite disturbing to me. As I read these passages, I found myself passing judgement on them. "That could never pass the censor board. So what good is it for me to spend time reading it? I was really embarrassed that RKO would send me something like this."For example, Kitty and Wyn never marry in the book, but all the other 'events' DO happen... of course in 1940 this was not acceptable, so RKO had to marry them 'up front' to pass the glare of the Hays Office. And, I'm pretty sure Ginger was in line with the more 'proper' storyline as well (...she was such a good girl, y'all! :-] ) While the final film script was quite 'toned down', it was still a bit 'edgy' for mainstream audiences at the time.

Ginger had been wanting to do a 'drama' for awhile. She had just finished up a 'semi-dramatic' film, 'Primrose Path'; it was part drama, part comedy, part romance...and it 'whetted' Ginger's appetite for a 'full' dramatic role. She still had reservations about Kitty's storyline, but the producer (David Hempstead) sent Ginger the 'revised' script, and as she recalled in her bio, "I realized it was one hell of a script, and was convinced that whoever played the role would end up with an Oscar. I saw it that vividly."Ginger played the role to perfection, and she 'owned' the part - it's hard to imagine anyone else as Kitty. Her performance not only earned her an Oscar, but it galvanized her as an actress that could rub elbows with Hepburn, Fontaine and Davis and not end up with tennis elbow (bah-dum-dah... :-} ), and it solidified her 'Hard-Working American Girl' persona, which she portrayed so well in many subsequent films, and endeared her to an entire generation of moviegoers.
And the rest is cinematic history, as they say... Kitty Foyle was a pretty major story in its day, and for Ginger to play it was the 'watershed moment' which vaulted her to the pinnacle of her career...and proved to all that, as an actress, she could pretty much nail any role that was presented to her, in grand fashion...including Kitty Foyle, by Judas Priest!!!
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Interesting stuff...- The role of Wyn was sought by David Niven, Robert Montgomery, Ray Milland, Laurence Olivier, Franchot Tone, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., George Brent and Melvin Douglas...but NOT Dennis Morgan; Morgan was originally considered for the role of Mark Eisen (the doc), along with Randolph Scott, Joel McCrea, Jeffrey Lynn, Patric Knowles and James Craig, who eventually was picked for the doc role.

- Molly, one of Kitty's roommates in New York (the blondish one), was played by director Sam Wood's daughter, Katharine (K.T.) Stevens.

- In order to get in a 'somber, tear-inducing mood' for the 'Kitty gives birth' scene, Ginger went to her dressing room and listened to Tchaikovsky's "Romeo and Juliet".

- The December 9, 1940 edition of LIFE magazine featured Ginger as Kitty Foyle on its cover - Ginger's second appearance on LIFE's cover. The article was about filming specific scenes of the movie, and did not really have much Ginger info, save for a few pictures.

- Of course, Ginger won the 1940 Best Actress Oscar for her role as Kitty, but the film was also nominated for Best Picture, Best Director (Sam Wood), Best Screenplay (Dalton Trumbo), and Best Sound (John Aalberg).

- In the movie Ginger made just before 'Kitty', "Lucky Partners", Ginger's character (Jean Newton) works in her aunt's (Spring Bynington) bookstore; in one scene, Jean is looking out the store window (where she is observing Ronald Coleman across the street), and the book "Kitty Foyle" is displayed in the window.

- When Ginger won the Oscar, she was greeted on the set of "Tom, Dick and Harry" the next day at RKO by staffers and actors dressed in top hats and tails.

- The dark sleeved dress with white collar and cuffs which Ginger wore in the movie is still known today in the garment trade as a "Kitty Foyle Dress".

- The movie was RKO's largest hit of 1940, earning $869,000.

- MGM's Tom and Jerry animated series gave it a nod in the title of 1948's short, "Kitty Foiled". The cartoon itself had, of course, nothing in common with "The Natural History of a Woman."

And finally, here is an overview of Kitty Foyle, and in Ginger's career in general, from none other than Mr. Robert Osborne, the 'overseer' of Turner Movie Classics, and probably one of the top 'classic' movie historians of our time. It was taken from the back cover of an LP of Ginger's radio production of Kitty Foyle - hopefully Mr. Osborne won't mind if I transcribe this here for all Gingerologists to read... interesting that it was written in 1975, exactly mid-way between Kitty in 1940 and where we currently sit. (BTW, in case Mr. Osborne or anybody else at TCM is reading this, please feel free to contact me regarding filling the 'guest host' spot in celebration of Ginger's 100th birthday on 07/16/11... yeah, I'll do it for FREE... or at LEAST for a lot less than Baldwin is being paid.. :-] )

Ginger Rogers once told a reporter, “Kitty Foyle was my first picture. It was my mother who made all those pictures with Fred Astaire.” The lady was kidding, of course, but there is no denying that everything connected with the spectacular Rogers career dates B.K. (Before Kitty) and A.K. (After Kitty). The Foyle role fit her like a coat of enamel, won her an Academy Award and kept her from being known solely as part of something called Astairenrogers.

Kitty Foyle was made at RKO Radio Studios in Hollywood in 1940, long after blonde and bouncy Ginger had been established as Fred Astaire’s most popular on-screen partner. She’d also proven her solo box office worth in a few comedies of her own. Up to that point, however, she hadn’t been established as an actress (and no fault of her own, but critics and the public have always assumed performances in musicals and comedies require no acting prowess, only nervous feet). One day she’d had quite enough, put down her foot – one of the unnervous ones – and divorced Fred as a partner. “No more musicals!” she told her bosses. While they ran for the aspirin bottle, Ginger started looking for a juicy role.

Enter Kitty Foyle, the most popular literary heroine of the day – and the timing couldn’t have been better. Kitty was the creation of author Christopher Morley, a hard-working white collar girl who was fed up to her typewriter ribbons. “I read about the guts of the pioneer woman, and the woman of the dust bowl, and the gingham goddess of the covered wagon,” says Kitty. “What about the woman of the covered typewriter? What has she got when she leaves the office?” It wasn’t all work for Kitty – she also had to choose between a liaison with a rich, married socialite and a romance with an industrious young doctor. But the public loved her, and every actress in the movie world wanted to play her. RKO, meanwhile, bought the screen rights and Ginger snapped it up. She darkened her hair, replaced the usual maribo feathers with a working girl’s wardrobe and went to town on the part, turning in a performance that made one critic clap his hands in glee, writing “Ginger Rogers plays Kitty Foyle so well it’s hard to remember she ever danced her way to fame.” The flourishing, epic touch came when she won that hard-to-get Oscar over the likes of Bette Davis, Katharine Hepburn, Martha Scott and Joan Fontaine. Goodbye, Fred!

In the years that followed, Ginger got to play everything from gum-chewing molls and ex-convicts to Dolly Madison and Dolly Levi, all thanks in great measure to that first encounter with Ms. Foyle. Her movie career has been long winded (36 active years, 73 major films), quite dazzling, an audience pleaser, always fun to watch. And despite the enduring fame of Astaire n’ Rogers, Rogers n’ Astaire, she is still best remembered as Kitty Foyle, the white collar girl. Their names remain synonymous. This is a permanent record of that collaboration – and proof the lady known as Ginger could do very well indeed without the hint of a Carioca, a Continental or a Castle Walk in reel three.

ROBERT OSBORNE, author of Academy Awards Illustrated and four other books on motion pictures. (circa 1975)

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Finally, one of my fave Ginger pics ('screen captures') from the movie, from the 'Kitty meets the fam' scene... I think the 'black dorito' hat is just SO cool... with the black lace stuff...and the frilly, puffy collar...yow, that works, y'all :-] ...and of course, this scene is where Kitty gets her Irish up to the Nth degree (i.e., 'maximum' SassyGinger), so, yep...a great scene.

Well, hope this was informative and fun for y'all... of course, I can think of no better way to celebrate this occasion than by watching Kitty Foyle tonight...I believe I'll just do that!

KIG (AND Kitty-like!)

VKMfanHuey
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13 comments:

  1. I loved watching this movie. In fact I have seen it twice. Love Ginger Rogers. Happy Holidays!
  2. Awesome post Huey! I actually (finally) got a "good" copy of Kitty for Christmas. I have a burned copy which is all right but this is one of of those films that just deserves to be in a fancy box with a fancy cover. I originally crossed it off my list when Mom said I had too many movies on my list but my mom knows how much I love Kitty so she got it for me!

    Youre right Ginger is brilliant in this - she never drops character ever and is just amazing in every scene because she is literally in every scene!
  3. A very fun and informative post indeed, I didn't know (or have forgotten) much of this and will have to look for the book in the window next time I watch Lucky Partners...too cool!

    Even though Kitty Foyle was the first Ginger movie I ever saw (and what made me fall in love with her in the first place) I too think of her career in terms of BK and AK. Both eras are fantastic in their own rights, just for different reasons. Can't have one without the other!
  4. Wow that's awesome! Love that movie <3
  5. Totally Just watched it Last night! One of my Favorites always good if you need a good Cry. ;)
  6. I just hopped off the train after Christmas with my family, learning that something is missing in my movie archive.

    I must order this film!

    I have a little time on my hands, until I'll reach the year 1939 on my blogs, but I won't do it without Kitty Foyle then.

    Thanks for all those interesting informations, Huey!
  7. Ginger is so enormously popular, she got the most clicks on my blogs over the months. And very often I see the Google search term "ginger rogers" in my stats. I tried to slow her down a bit, to have the focus more on Jean, but it's really hard. She's 180 clicks ahead of my article on THE DEVIL & MISS JONES. How can one ever catch up on that?

    Ginger's popularity is really amazing. Well, she deserves it anyway.

    But it is possible to boost certain issues on a blog. If you would name Ginger's full name "Ginger Rogers" at least once in a headline, this might bring you to the top of Google search lists. At least you would be ranked much higher and this would bring you and Ginger more visitors. I did the same with Jean and it really worked out. Labeling Jean wasn't so successful, but her name in headlines let her go off like a rocket.
  8. I just googled "ginger rogers, blogspot" and couldn't find Ginger on the first 5 pages of Google results.

    As I said: Naming her full name once in a headline of a new post would make GINGEROLOGY go off like a rocket. I tried it with Jean these days and it worked perfectly. Before that you couldn't find me in Google results as well.

    I will do this with Jean regularly from now on. I won't have her full name in headlines of all articles, but from time to time this is very useful, so people who love Jean can find my blog.

    The line under the headline, "...the beautiful science of Miss Ginger Rogers!", doesn't seem to be that strong. I have Jean in that line at WordPress and it hardly helped. Naming her in headlines worked real wonders.
  9. "I just googled "ginger rogers, blogspot" and couldn't find Ginger on the first 5 pages of Google results."

    Sorry, I meant I couldn't find Gingerology on the first 5 pages!
  10. This is probably one of my favorite movies she did (if not THE favorite of her movies). I watched it with my mom on a nine hour plane trip when I went to Alaska for a mission trip. It really passed the time! Ginger can just help with so much...:)
  11. Thanks to all for sharing your thoughts on 'Kitty'... I didn't end up watching it the other night - had some stuff going on with the kids... but plan to check it out again soon! It's one I could NEVER tire of watching!

    Oh, CS - please check out my new post... hey, it may work, who knows? Thanks for the tip...Hopefully in 2011, Ginger's 100th year, we can pull in mondo folks!!!

    KIG, y'all!
    VKMfanHuey
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  12. This is a great post, Huey! I didn't watch "Kitty" for quite awhile as I kept putting it off. My worry was that some of the buzz about her getting the Oscar because of politics made me worry that after watching it I would conclude as much. When I did view it, I finished with a smile because my conclusion was that the award was well deserved.
  13. Thanks, Lady F!!! Glad that Kitty won ya over...she pretty much has that effect on everyone, it appears... :-]

    Hope you have a great new year!!!

    VKmfanHuey
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Archive Post #3 - from Gingerology - originally posted February 11, 2010

OK...Here's the Kitty Questions...

...Remember, most of these are pretty specific, and hopefully in 'chronological order'...so watching the movie beforehand will make them a bit easier...a few pics are added to perhaps 'prod' your memory (well, the last one is just a cool one of Ginger and Jimmy at the Oscars...)
The term (real time) means the question refers to points in the movie that are...well, in the movie's 'present', and not in 'flashback' time...and, as usual, the answers are in the comments...GOOD LUCK!!! - PS - some Q&As may be somewhat of a 'spoiler', so, if you haven't watched it yet...GO WATCH IT!!!!
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Q1 - (real time) What is Kitty's first line in the movie?

Q2 - (real time) What is the name of the store which Kitty works at the beginning of the movie?

Q3 - What is the last name of Mark, Kitty's doctor beau?

Q4 - (real time) Where does Mark want to meet Kitty at midnight?

Q5 - (real time) What building is Kitty living in?

Q6 - (real time) What is the first thing Kitty says to Wyn, who has 'snuck in' to her room?

Q7 - (real time) Where is Wyn going?

Q8 - (real time) What dock number is Wyn wanting Kitty to meet him at midnight?

Q9 - (real time) How old is Kitty, according to her 'conscience' in the mirror?

Q10 - What street was Kitty's childhood home on in Philly?



Q11 - What is Kitty's 'Pop' doing when we first meet him?


Q12 - Where does Kitty learn to type?




Q13 - What EXACT date does Kitty meet Wyn Strafford VI?


Q14 - What does Wyn use to try to put the fire out in the trash can?


Q15 - What magazine is Wyn editor of?


Q16 - Who does Kitty say that Wyn sounds like on the Dictaphone?



Q17 - What is the name of the Italian liquor that Wyn orders for them in Giono's?

Q18 - Where do Wyn and Kitty go when they leave Giono's?


Q19 - What song is Kitty 'playing' on Wyn's arm?

Q20 - What is the name of Kitty and Pop's maid?

Q21 - What is Kitty's address in New York, where she lives with two roommates?

Q22 - What are the names of Kitty's two roommates?

Q23 - Kitty buys a Philly paper and reads about the 'Assembly'...it is the ___th annual one.

Q24 - How did Wyn find Kitty in New York?

Q25 - Kitty says that dancing is good training for women because?

Q26 - According to Kitty, how many generations does it take to make a bunch of people like the 'current' Straffords?
Q27 - What is the number of the Philly operator that called Kitty's boss and left Kitty a message?
Q28 - What date did Wyn marry Miss Veronica Brook Gladwyn?
Q29 - What does Kitty tell Giono to tell Wyn after she learns he is married?
Q30 - How old would Tom Foyle, Kitty's candidate for the year 2000, have been in 2000?
Q31 - What does Wyn Stafford VII leave at the place Kitty is working?
Q32 - (real time) What time is it when the bellhop picks up Kitty's luggage for the cab?
Q33 - (real time) What does the doorman say after Kitty rides away?

Well, that will hopefully be enough to give you something to ponder for a bit...hope you enjoy!
Again, answers in the comment section...
VKMfan
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22 comments:

  1. ANSWERS!!!

    A1 - "Men bachelors are that way on purpose."

    A2 - Delphine Detaille Cosmetiques

    A3 - The last name of Mark is never revealed

    A4 - St. Timothy's Hospital

    A5 - Pocohantas Hotel for Women

    A6 - "Well, what are YOU doing out of Philadelphia on a night like this?"

    A7 - Buenos Aires

    A8 - Pier 48

    A9 - 26

    A10 - Griscombe Street

    A11 - Winding a clock

    A12 - Veasy Business College

    A13 - July 23, 1932, at 4:37 pm

    A14 - A rolled-up rug

    A15 - Philly - A magazine of Philadelphia for Philadelphians

    A16 - Ronald Coleman

    A17 - Strega

    A18 - Lake Pocono

    A19 - Night and Day

    A20 - Myrtle

    A21 - 1622 Rex Hill, Apartment 31

    A22 - Molly and Pat

    A23 - 186th

    A24 - He just followed his heartbeat

    A25 - "It's the first way a girl learns what a man is going to do before he does it"

    A26 - Six

    A27 - #12

    A28 - February 14th

    A29 - "Tell him his first one is a boy"

    A30 - Sixty-five

    A31 - Stuffed panda bear

    A32 - 25 to 12

    A33 - Well, Judas Priest!!!
     
  2. Excellent trivia! Many were "ooh, ooh, I know this one" tip of the tongue answers, lol! Sadly I didn't have time to watch the movie last night but I've seen it so many times, I'm ashamed I couldn't answer more of these readily.

    As for Strega, I actually saw a bottle of it in a liquor store once and it was exactly the same bottle as in the movie - it obviously hadn't changed much over the years! I was just dying to buy it, but not being 21 yet, and the price tag being $50, it just wasn't possible at the time, heh. I've looked for it in every liquor store I've been in since, but have never seen it again. Alas.
     
  3. Alright Im watching it! Look what youve started! Not looking at the answers yet but I had to comment I have a new favorite Ginger moment. Its right after Wyn leaves and Kitty picks up her snowglobe. She picks it up and shakes it with this gorgeous smile. I need to make a screencap of it! Im not sure it would make a good avatar with my screenname!
     
  4. Okay movie's over - here we go - Lets see how well I do

    Q1 -
    "Men bachelors are that way on purpose"

    Q2 -
    Delphine Detaille Cosmetique (Okay weird I just realized that one of my kids at school today was telling me about "Grammy Delphine" not a name you hear very often)

    Q3 - What is the last name of Mark, Kitty's doctor beau?
    Mark has a last name?

    Q4 - (real time) Where does Mark want to meet Kitty at midnight?
    St. Timothy's Hospital. (12 smack on the dot)

    Q5 - (real time) What building is Kitty living in?
    Pocahontas Hotel for Women

    Q6 -
    "Well, what are you doing here?"

    Q7 -
    Buenos Aires

    Q8 -
    Pier 48

    Q9 -
    26 (even though Kitty claims shes 24- but shes not old anyway!)

    Q10 -
    Griscom Street



    Q11 -
    .....

    Q12 -
    Oh shoot! It starts with a V! V_____ typing school! (Thats my moment of seeing her named spelled Katherine and wishing my parents had spelled it that way haha)



    Q13 -
    July 23rd at exactly 4:37 PM


    Q14 -
    A rug

    Q15 -
    The Philly (A Magazine About Philadelphia For Philadelphians

    Q16 -
    Ronald Colman


    Q17 -
    Strega

    Q18 -
    Lake Pocano to see the moonrise!

    Q19 -
    Night and Day

    Q20 -
    Myrtle

    Q21 -
    No clue

    Q22 -
    Mary and Pat

    Q23 -
    186th Annual

    Q24 -
    He just followed his heartbeat

    Q25 -
    Its the first way a girl learns what man is going to do before he does it.

    Q26 -
    6 generations

    Q27 -
    Operator 12


    Q28 - What date did Wyn marry Miss Veronica Brook Gladwyn?
    Not sure - but does it matter - the dingy broke Kitty's heart!

    Q29 -
    The first one's a boy

    Q30 -
    65 years old

    Q31 -
    "I forgot my bear!"

    Q32 -
    25 minutes to 12

    Q33
    "Well, Judas Priest!"

    Hey not too shabby! That was fun!
     
  5. PS - IMDB reports Mark's last name as Eisen. Dr. Mark Eisen. I took a peak at the Kitty page there because I knew Id seen Kitty's roommate Pat (Mary Treen) before. She was the lady who worked at the Building And Loan in Its A Wonderful Life! Apparently she also shows up uncredited in Dreamboat and also appeared in Bundle of Joy - the remake of Bachelor Mother. Hmmm shes also uncredited as the secretary in Roxie Hart too.
     
  6. Gingerella - Glad you liked it! Will try to do one of these every so often - it is neat to come up with questions, and also helps out with Ginger knowledge!!!
    A bottle of Strega, especially one with the same label, would be neat...although I am honestly a tee-totaller, would like that for the VKM collection!

    SG - Great work! Glad you enjoyed it. Eisen? may be, but the end credits just have 'Mark'... seems like it would be in there somewhere... something to look for upon the next viewing!

    OK, what movie should be next? probably a GandF one... Swing Time, perhaps?
     
  7. Hey Ive got some Barkleys questions if you want them. Look what youve started!
     
  8. Hope all is well. If you check out my latest Pink Saturday. It features the Ginger Rogers doll I bought for my daughter. Although the pictures are not that great from my iphone camera, you can still cleary see it. She's so pretty!!
     
  9. Shabbychic just peeked at your blog. Youre right the Ginger doll is beautiful and I love all your pink stuff. Imagine a post full of pink stuff ending with a Ginger doll. Miss Rogers would be proud!
     
  10. Thanks for the info, SCD! I have fallen behind on my 'blog surfing'... very cool doll! Again, my daughter would really like that one...
    Being a guy, of course, there's that unwritten rule that pink is not to be considered as a color of choice...well, I dig green best, anyway... but pink reminds me of VKM, so it is a bit special! AND, my daughter's room is a 'marbled' pink, and she is big on it - although recently she has become more of a purple fan...
     
  11. Wow, I loved your blog! I love Ginger - the pictures you published are wonderful. I'm saving lots of them to myself!
    I wrote a post on her and Fred too. I'd like you to visit my blog and tell if you liked the post and photos. www.ofilmequeviontem.blogspot.com.
    Congrats on yours!
     
  12. Thanks for the kind words, Danielle! I did check out your blog - the Movies, Movies Movies one is GREAT!!! Is that the blog you were referring to? The address in your comment sent me to something talking about blog maintenance (which I probably need plenty of! :-] )
    I hope to get some other things going on here, mainly some Ginger tunes and 'spoken word' stuff, as SG and I have been discussing (she is VERY good at digging up Ginger stuff...) also want to start a 'This Day in Gingerology' daily post...have quite a bit of info, but just needing to get going on it...alas, that 'work schedule' and 'family' stuff takes precedence, as it WELL should...
     
  13. Hey do you want me to send you the Barkleys questions I came up with? I got about 30 questions all together.
    You can use them (all or none) if you want.
     
  14. Sure, SG! OR, if you'd rather do a post on your blog, that's cool, too!
    I will 'advertise' over here if you want to... but either way is fine with me... your call!
    PS - got the 'parts 4,5, and 6' of Ginger My Story 'mp3'd' last night. I honestly should be able to get the last 6 done tonight - not too hard at all, really.
    The more I think about it, I might do the 'YouShare' deal in lieu of putting something on the blog itself - just put a 'link' to it on G-ology... can't you do pics on there, too?
     
  15. Yup. Pics are easier than anything. Looks like pics,music and videos seem do-able.

    Ill email you the questions and answers since youre blog is a little bit more fitting...although mine seems to be focusing more and more on Miss Rogers :P Keep an eye on your email!
     
  16. ...I will do the Barkley Trivia on the 25th, to 'coincide' with the TCM airing of it...albeit at 3 am, folks can record it or jsut get an early start to their day (sorry, not doing that...I have the disc...:-] ) - but in general, will try to do these in conjunction with a TCM airing...of course, March is a free-for-all...
    looked at the QandA...great job! I need to start doing more of the video stuff... that actually would be just like 'SceneIt!' I will get it all set up tomorrow - afraid I will mess up something tonight...
     
  17. The clips were pretty easy. I have a fantastic program on my computer that allows me to just copy chapters and then of course I can trim them if I need to. But it was really fun to come up with the questions - and not as hard as I thought....maybe Ive just seen the movie too many times. Recently I saw a picture from Barkleys with Ginger sitting in a car with the dude who played Jacques and hes holding her hand. Not a scene I remember from the movie (shes also wearing the pink and white dress from the end of the movie). I REALLY want to know whats going on there...did they change the ending?

    Im also in love with the pic of Ginger, Fred and Judy that I put at the top of the quiz!
     
  18. Thanks again for the 'Barkleys post'! Sorry the video stuff got messed up...I need to take a class in 'post attachments' or whatever...
    And yes, that pic of GandF with Judy is quite interesting!
    ...as for the neding, not sure what happens there...but I feel sure Josh and Dinah end up together...could have been an 'alternate' finale, tho... someone could write a pretty cool book about 'outtakes' and 'alternate endings' of movies, and actually have a DVD in it showing the stuff... if one could get access to that stuff...
     
  19. I wish we could find that one but I dont think we'll be that lucky. Speaking of "lost footage" I came across a website that deals with audio copies of TV shows where the video footage has been lost - one of them being Ginger's TV show. So inquired how much they want for it. 90 bucks for a audio cassette! A little steep for me!
     
  20. oof... you know, SOMEBODY has to have a copy of the whole show, video/audio...not sure I would pay $90 for audio only...it would be cool, but hey... gotta see Ginger, right?
    Not sure where one would go to find that, unless from the network - not sure which one it was... NBC, I think...
     
  21. I found a clip from Producer's Showcase:Tonight at 8:30 - Ginger's first TV appearance. I emailed the website and asked them if they had any more clips or if there was a copy of the production to buy.
     
  22. ...there are so many TV appearances for her, I bet... not sure how one could keep up with them... even an OGRE would be potentially overwhelmed...
    ...in a somewhat related note, the 'book' I bought a bit ago - Homer Dickens - lists quite a few 'short films', like 'Hollywood on Parade', and stuff like that...probably like, 5 seconds of Ginger footage, but... :-)

Archive Post #2 - from Gingerology - originally posted February 10, 2010

...Reminder...and 'intro'...

...to a future post (VERY near future) regarding Kitty Foyle, which is being aired on TCM tomorrow at 11:30 AM Eastern Time - if you don't have it, then Judas Priest, tape it... it's KITTY!!!
AAAAND, in conjunction with this great movie, Gingerology is introducing a new feature, or at least a 'twist' on a regular practice around here... we will call it "SceneGinger" (there's a DVD board game with a similar title...maybe a few of y'all have played it...)

It works like this... I will note for y'all to watch a Ginger movie...so, WATCH KITTY FOYLE!!! Then, as soon as I can post, probably this time tomorrow night, unfortunately, but maybe sooner, I will post a QUITE extensive list of questions regarding scenes from the movie...some pretty easy, some not so much...the key is to watch CLOSELY.

ANOTHER AAAAND - 'Roberta' is also airing on TCM tomorrow, at 6:00 PM Eastern. While we are at it, 'Flying Down to Rio' will also be shown early Friday morning (2/12), at 4:00 AM Eastern.

Until then, Keep It Gingery!!!

VKMfan
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11 comments:

  1. Its like a mini Ginger marathon today. Unfortunately I have to go to work so ll miss Kitty (but of course I have it) and Ill be recording Roberta and Flying Down To Rio. Unfortunately for me I was also planning on recording Singin In the Rain but I want Roberta and Flying Down to Rio on the same disc and Im not getting up in the middle of the night to change discs!

    Enjoy watching Kitty!
     
  2. I'll have to pull out my DVD of it tonight. Ah, Kitty....the movie that sparked my love of Ginger and all things vintage! :)
     
  3. That sounds exciting! Sadly, I don't have TCM so I won't be able to watch it (it is on my Netflix queue though). Will you be doing the game for Roberta and Flying Down to Rio too?
     
  4. Hi! I nominated you for the creative blogger award -- http://discoveringdirkbogarde.blogspot.com/2010/02/creative-blogger-award.html :)
     
  5. SG - Hope the DVD burn turned out ok! But yeah, get Singing in the Rain...it's pretty cool...well, sure you have SEEN it...

    Gingerella - You know, this is only the THIRD time I've watched it, and I wonder WHY I haven't watched it a BUNCH more...it's just a perfect movie...Ginger is awesome in it...just perfect!

    Sally - Hope you get Kitty soon! For now, just have Kitty Q&A...but plan on more in the future - will most likely be the 'biggies' that folks have probably seen a few times...most likely a Ginger/Fred next time.

    KG - THANKS! It feels great that you enjoy G-ology! Appreciate it!
     
  6. Of course I have - its one of my favorites! The Moses routine, while declared as ridiculous by many is one of my favorites. Wouldnt it have been cool to see Ginger dance with Gene Kelly? - That would have been a blast since both seemed to like to have a good time! I imagine something more like Bouncin The Blues from Barkleys. But Ginger didnt want to make more musicals and Im okay with that. ;)

    I got Roberta - I saw the last 1/2 hour of it and liked it better than I did last time. I forgot how much fun G&F were in that one! Got the DVD Recorder set up for Flying Down to Rio - just to have the complete set!
     
  7. Ginger and Gene would have been interesting... it's weird that Ginger didn't dance with anyone else (well, 'power-danced', anyway)...I guess she was serious about 'moving on to other things, career-wise'...
    Hope Rio is all accounted for... not the best overall movie, but the few GandF scenes are priceless, natch...
    MAN! You need to get the mondo box set of GandF movies! It's a bit pricey, but it is WELL worth it, a good bit of extras! I bought a set for my mom, and it is honestly the BEST present I ever gave her...she CONSTANTLY watches them...
     
  8. Nope no modo box set for me! I was able to get my hands on the Astaire and Rogers Collection Volume 1 (Top Hat, Follow the Fleet, Swing Time, Shall We Dance and Barkleys) and I also have copies of Gay Divorcee, Carefree and Castles. Now I have recording of Rio and Roberta for the complete set!
     
  9. ...well, you are getting there!
    When I bought the box set for Ma at Costco for Christmas '08, it was one of the 'now-infamous' 'partially complete' sets - it had ten DVD cases with all 10 movies noted, but actually only had 5 DVDs in it! The 'concept' was to buy this box if you already bought the 'Volume One' box - all you had to do was add the Vol. One DVDs to the empty boxes provided in this set, to make a 'complete' 10-DVD box. This was not labeled as such on the box (or at least not well enough) - so of course, after she opened it and found only 5 DVDs, we just thought - well, let's go get another one - this one was messed up...but some research done before the return revealed the 'partially complete' concept. So we got our $$$ back and just ordered thru Amazon.
    They each have some neat 'shorts' on them, but little that relates to GandF. The bio DVD 'Partners in Rhythm' is a neat overview of them both, with a good bit of interview footage from each. The Music CD is good, too, but you have that...
    OK - I am REALLY going to try to get some tunes going tomorrow (off for Pres day)...hey, the snow from Friday is gone, but now it's supposed to snow AGAIN, starting after midnight sunday - just a few hours - estimated 2-3 inches! We NEVER get two different snow events in a week... folks are all rattled around here, thinking it is a sign of end times... :-}
     
  10. What?! What a strange set. yup, Im happy with my makeshift set - even got my hands on a copy of Parters in Rhythm which I really enjoyed too! Youre right some of the featurettes are good too! Lucky! I wish I was off for Presidents Day tomorrow. :( And on top of that were doing Valentines Day tomorrow - not planning on any treats just letting the kids trade cards. Too bad I dont have a dress like the Carefree heart dress to wear tomorrow!
     
  11. Well, my daughter did end up going to school today, and they had their Valentine's Day party - so my wife and I went to it, along with our little son. My daughter goes to a private school, and my wife is one of the 'class moms' who helps out with the parties and stuff.
    Carefree - yep - that WOULD be the one to wear on Valentine's Day!
    It snowed some around suppertime - not sure if the roads will be iced over or not tomorrow...may be stuck here again. After awhile, you just want to get back to 'normal' for a few days, anyway...